Maybe the best thing to do is to train church MEMBERS what to look for and to constantly be vigilant, because the leaders are just not going to do it if it goes against their interests. Such is life sometimes. In an expos published by The Dispatch, David and Nancy French detailed how Kanakuk Kamp in Branson, Missouri, handled reports of abuse committed by Pete Newman, a former camp counselor who rose in the ranks to become the camp's director and used his position to groom boys. I dont understand why Christian organizations feel that they have to reinvent the wheel or use Christian versions of products. OK, bye.' How can having a first class pervert not have significant, long term damage to boys??? Pete was what a Christian should look like. Regards, I feel that some people have a hard time with the truths around us, not only the sexual abuse by priests, but all bad things. This judge gets it right! Actually its a real problem. Fundamentalists tend to view the world primarily as something to be avoided, while evangelicals tend to view the world as something to be converted. In light of all of that, Id rather have a church implement some sort of sexual abuse prevention program to mitigate the risk to children, than for a family to have to endure an uncertain legal process to seek justice for a violated child. I dont know. Maybe he was just thinking about it as he attended. Huh? Unfortunately, it seems to indicate that Fellowship Memphis does not take either child sex abuse or voyeurism seriously. The letter-writers called Kanakuk's reporteduse of NDAs one of many "intimidation tactics" thecamp uses to stifle allegations of sexual assault and protect its reputation. Not institutional assets and such. Imagine women screening someone hired to serve at the Church the safety of their children would be their FIRST concern, which is as it should be. Normal people do not have a hypnotic affect, they do not seem to be the pinnacle of what a Christian should be. One of them got sun poisoning and if the other kid had not texted her she was never informed by the godly SBTS youth leaders. We are instructed to expose the evil that lies in the shadows. Fundamentalism has a very different feel compared to evangelicalism. I had a very hard time believing any of it. You cant trust some church leaders to be honest with you these days about those they put in charge of children. Reporters working for the Springfield. The camp responded with a prepared statement attributed to "Kanakuk Communications," which the News-Leader is reproducing here in full, noting however that victims and former camp employees have disputed the timeliness of Kanakuk's termination and reporting of Newman. Just imagine the kind of clout that gave this church with local officials. . And the name Branson, MO sounds vaguely familiar. Mark Driscoll is an evil man. Spending money on a report is one way to stay in business. I have to say, I know predators can be found anywhere, but I do feel like the non-comp churches are safer. For more than a decade following these tragic events, Kanakuk has continued to work tirelessly to help ensure that this deeply deceptive and abusive behavior does not happen again. I was quoting Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you but Jesus Christ and Him crucified (NIV). Real leaders are humble and they are transparent. . I thought it was delightful and I did not see anything particularly religious about it at the time. They were what we consider pests and threats. It just gets worse and worse. There are powers that are ancient and evil that we cannot see that lie behind the scandals that we can. And we had nothing to do with children. Its vital to their careers. In a weeks time before taxes I will have earned 86.59 after seven days of feeding 2xs s day. She missed the news from October 2015 then Im, sadly, in complete agreement with you. if being sued is what it takes to make the Church more careful of its lambs, then let it be done. We have this notionthat we certainly dont get from the Biblethat Christians should look good and be so sweetly genuine and wonderful, but in my experience, Christiansat least the ones who really mean itare the first to admit their faultsand not in that phony, fraudulent, pastoral way, e.g. Each side loves their insults instead of just dealing with an issue. Unfortunatelywell, we all know the rest of the story. Eh, yes and no. I know a few lawyers (with Anabaptist leanings) who wont represent someone in a trial suit. I dont get how anyone could with a shred of decency or understand of morality could think its okay to keep this man on the staff. So he would sayyou could do things like sing a worship song while you're masturbating, or you could quote Scripture while masturbating, or you could just not think of women. Haw! They are just normal people. I think that the Church of my Southern Baptist grandmother must have been similar, as she was someone who reflected on the goodness of God and lived her life accordingly. Hell is swelling, too, with demons who were called pastor on earth. Its peaceful. . Please consider subscribing to support vital local journalism. very beautiful liturgies and ancient liturgies in those Churches. When I received the phone call in 09 from a mutual friend about what Pete had done, I was in total shock. No amount of investigating will change the heart problem that is at the root of this! I think this is one reason child sexual predation is played down and people end up feeling empathy for molesters especially Christian ones. http://www.netgrace.org/how-we-help I pray frequently for Petes victims healing, and that Pete remains in jail while here on earth. Merrellsaid, "I'm satisfied, but there's always a sense of gravity when someone is sentenced to life. And Im sure there are many people outside the House of Driscoll who think Im defiling their holy temple just by standing on the sidewalk as a (very imperfect) warning about whats within. At least one of the victims was not yet a teen the story said he was 12, at one point. Thank you for praying for Former CLCers eye surgery and others needs. He was the pastor who allegedly kept thing on the down low. but I wonder what a person does when their take on the Scriptures differs from what leadership tells them it means? It is not easy at all to find lawyers who will sue religious organizations. And this busi about getting expert witnesses to downplay the boys trauma, that makes me want to smash their faces with my fist. Plaintiffs accusedother Kanakuk officials, including owner White,of being aware that Newman had abused kidsyearsbefore Newman's criminal conviction. I cant come up with anything that makes sense. I think they have good intentions but nothing brings out truth better than discovery. I am at a loss when it comes to people in institutions looking the other way. What is the Christian formation for the development of moral conscience within the neo-Cal theology??? The baptist church of my earliest years had a quote from the bible carved over the doors between the vestibule/narthex and the church/nave. Just remember the side effect like Muslims after 9/11, Christians will circle the wagons against PERSECUTION!!!!! and kanakuk . IMO talking about conscience does indeed get close to reason and experience, except I dont think that is a bad thing. This church is insane. I know that can be confusing, but I have tried to explain it. I will not recommend that camp, either for campers or potential counsellors. I dont think it works on this sort of problem that is ingrained in the institution. He says he wont sue the church, because he would find it uncomfortable to explain to Jesus how he took the churchs money and gave Him back 10%. Others have the good fortune not to until they are older. Peter Newman: Long time abuser/molester of campers at Kamp Kanakuk. The only bad part: I missed the Oak Ridge boys by a week. @ Lydia: The problem is not that no one is immune (although certainly none of us are perfect). Only not in the way the person expects, they use it to perfect their craft. That is how the name con artist was coined.. confidence trick or confidence artist. In fact, there is now so much info online to educate churches about sexual abuse that ministries have no excuse for being ignorant. What were some of the allegedactivities? There are tares out there. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or it they try, they will shortly be out of office.. Society at large is way, way ahead of Christian organizations when it comes to protecting children and adults from predators in the work place. Nah, I have to rein in my anger before I comment on that! Due to previous friendships and employment, there was supposedly aconnection between Fellowship Memphis and some of the folks at Kanakuk. Note the dateit was a year before the Globe published its story and it didnt have the impact the Globes story did. -This post is focusing on Peter Newman due to his relationship with Fellowship Memphis. Please do not make the mistake of assuming that either all Christian pastors are good or that they all are evil. They were told to sign or resign, and many had the integrity to resign. That leads me to believe that the church leaders at the time,including JohnBryson and Bryan Loritts,didnot take crimes of a sexual nature seriously, especially if the person involved hasfriends and family connections. We are talking about something that cannot just be repented of but something that is the persons very identity- who they are. However, when I google soul competency for a definition what I see there does not seem to be what you are saying, so we may be talking about two different things. Thats what God-hating narcissists do who want something from youmaybe your soul. Hoffpauir said that just after the call ended,hetold his wife for the first time that Newman sexually abused him for five years. Too many want a big show of everything, with celebrities and entertaining music. @ BeenThereDoneThat: The members of the churches begin to demand the kind of things theyve heard or read about through these groups. The issue being this is my body..blood and what the meaning of the word is is. Some of you may have heard about Joe White who has spoken at conferences such a Promise Keepers, etc. '", Newman's logic reflects sexual best practices suggested by Kanakuk's owner, Joe White, as White explicitly outlined in the first edition of his teen manual for "sex, love and dating," titled "Pure Excitement. I heard all sorts of stories from extended family with all our ties to SBTS back then. There is never a real sincere moment even when they seem so sincere. I live near Branson and recall this sad situation very well. I wouldnt say it was Christian themed, either just good clean fun for all ages. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: They are empty men, pursuing the almighty dollar, masquerading in sheep costumes, men without souls. It is a real distinction. . Reminds me of another CS Lewis quote: Experience, that most brutal of teachers. Brian- you were groomed to think about this man the way you did. Your understanding of human nature is not full until youve seen evil masked by good, up close and personal. I very much appreciate what Brian has said because I think he speaks for a lot of young staffers who believed in Petes character and his testimony and were heartbroken at a deep level when they learned that Pete had betrayed so many. If a bunch of boy and girl kampers had been caught skinny dipping together without adult supervision (dont know if boys and girls have separate sessions at that camp, or are there at the same time), I wonder if they would have been sent home in disgrace? UK never made the facts public. Since then I have been much more aware of such individuals. There can be no excuse, no rationalization, no mitigating factors. Pete Newman was a master of deception - fooling not only Kanakuk but also his friends, neighbors, and even his own family. Half of his childhood!! What does that mean in plain English, please? When did that go by? REFUGEE, LawProf, We no longer go to church, but we are the Church, weve just found other, safer ways of meeting together that dont involve narcissistic/dangerous/abusive men and their vicious little fiefdoms. Never again. HUG, I am sorry that happened. We also have this notion that bad people will look bad, kind of like in Disney shows where the good are beautiful and the bad are ugly. They met at a Youth Life event in 1999, a decade before the prayer-request phone call. Good point. The problem is that some organizations will NOT do the right thing until they know it will cost them. When I received the phone call in 09 from a mutual friend about what Pete had done, I was in total shock. Currently, the camp's websiteprices four-week sessions at $4,800 per child. What I said has nothing to do with a building; we are not Jews at a temple in Jerusalem. PS I guess he wouldnt have clientel to train and make a salary from if he had a reputation for suing on behalf of victims. I have yet to hear anyone else lay out how inadequate most churchs policies are for protecting kids, and why. (we were considering membership)What church tells a almost grown kid that they cant have a cell phone in this day and age of sexual abuse.I never allowed my kids to attend sleepovers and the one time I felt reasonably safe about it(meaning sister was really mature and sibling was 15 and other friends older kids would look out for each other)my distrustful nature is proven right.I have seen and heard of so much wrong in the church in my lifetime I am a DONE,I still go to church (will not tithe again,I paid my part)but I really dont care anymore.!!! So that's how it started out.". Well known Christians send their kids there and parents like to stand around, pointing out the celebrities on Parents Day. They live their life in a way to show that they despise Mammon as their example. Neither you nor the other people in the parking lot are in the act of worshipping. My daughter now preaches at an Evangelical Covenant church, the denomination this evil man belonged to. Most never know anything much ( they dont even demand to see detailed budget on how their own money is spent ) unless someone speaks up. In my young and energetic college years, I worked as a summer counselor for a few small, non-Christian camps. Be still and know that I am God? How many other knowledgeable people, besides Boz Tchividjian, are having an impact raising awareness about this problem in churches? Maybe The Slick Deceiver hits a little too close to home for the MenaGAWD? Its also known for gospel music and country music, isnt it? . I know the name of the individual who has given usthis information. Some people never have to confront it. But maybe I missed it. If moral conscience is dismissed as reliable; that strengthened the authority of leadership. There has to be SOME concept of personal responsibility for decision-making, for actions taken . The letter also demands that Kanakuk release all victims from legal non-disclosure agreements, which civil parties often sign when they settle a lawsuit out of court. He had to practice church discipline on a 35 year member Dr. Nan Hawkes and drive her from the congregation. Its been around for a while. Dixie stampede is popular. He was in the temple courts, he was disrupting the precursors to worship, which included trading the evil Roman money for holy temple money so people could buy sacrificial animals. Kamp Kanakukalsohad anotherpedophile incident which you can read about here:Former Kanakuk Counselor Lee Bradberry Sentenced To Ten Years For Sex Crimes Involving Young Boys. And I do wonder how many of these people call themselves pro-life. Theres a difference between being anti-abortion and pro-life: you have to actually care for and about those who have been born *in addition to* those who havent. They actually believe they can tell who is elect! Protecting the kids from sexual abuse should be pretty basic, both from a Christian standpoint and from a business standpoint. "I remember asking, I don't really know who's paying, like I don't have money to pay for this," Hoffpauir said. So yes, in that sense people are taught bible, which is certainly training the conscience. I laughed so hard while watching the video of everyone standing. ", He added, "One of our main goals is to get the word out there to help find someone who might be listening, so that they can start the healing journey and get the help and support that they need. My understanding is that the general target of the Resurgence was to get rid of liberal excesses that had arisen, especially within seminaries. In my opinion if you give pediphiles access to children knowing what they are or even if they act inappropriate sexually then they are the same in my eyes. The real problem is people want to be led instead of self govern. (Not mentioned was Colorado), -At a "Purity Conference" in Memphis, Newman engaged a group of boys in sex talk, telling them what it was like to "have sex with a woman now that he was married.". Newmanallegedly hadfull access to the church which, of course, has children. Or alternately, the man is always whats important and the one who should be protected. Accusations of sex abuse tied to Newman and Kanakuk have made headlines recently as two journalists with conservative online news site The Dispatch published a report on March 28 that asserted the Newman scandalwas more widespread and systemic than previously understood. I would call the culling of those missionaries an attack against a healthy diversity within the SBC, and the missionaries belonged to a faith group that leadership no longer wanted to have influence in the SBC. "We graduated college, we spent about 10 years away from Branson, just being free and clear of everything this town has to offer. I wont argue that there are some self-serving lawyers and judges. So this lawyer claims victim advocacy yet is paid by churches on the front end and the church can use his law firms Victim Advocacy status as a way to reduce settlement and or lawsuits in the future if a predators slips in. But alas, Im too much the free-thinker and free-spirit to go the whole enchilada by conversion to Catholicism. Putting a building on a pedestal does not fall in that category. Dygert referred Hoffpauir then living overseas to Staples, who talked to Hoffpauir using the Skype app. I guess it comes down to, what did Bryan Loritts know and when did he know it? Bryan Loritts was not the voyeur. I wasnt aware GRACE promoted themselves as victim advocates, either. They need to be got out of positions where they can knowingly expose innocents to harm. It read: The Lord is in his holy temple, let all the earth keep silent before Him. you wont convince me that one isnt a CYA hire! Oh I think GRACE does strive to do thorough investigations. The requirements for receiving the Sacrament are (1) one must be a baptized christian and (2) one must have confessed and repented of known sin. It read: The Lord is in his holy temple, let all the earth keep silent before Him. There are goats. But that was long before they invented duct tape and bolt cutters. I have had a calling towards Student Ministry for many years and volunteered alongside Pete at the local Methodist Church. (She dis not realize the seminary trained youth leaders do not think she knows the true gospel .which explained a lot) She was surprised at how many parents just went along. 23,515 views Sep 15, 2011 : ( We all love and miss Pete, He was a great influence on all our kid's lives. CPA licensing has changed because of it. (Just having to say that feels wrong and backwards to what Christianity should be.). Sandy kicked the issue over to Richard Rieves. Come to find out it was because they did not give tenure to a very Calvinist prof. Then these same Mohler appointed leaders, speaking for Ky baptists, threatened to take away the 1 million dollar a year subsidy to the college. Oh my gosh, this is heartbreaking, heartbreaking. Can you point me to Friedmans writings in which he talks about doing the right thing? Still a better track record than 2012, when Gods Anointed Choice changed at least once a week, the only constant being NOT THE MORMON! If they are doing stupid things and then make excuses for not making wise decisions, they are of the false church, regardless of who or what they loudly proclaim. Branson is a popular vacation site. Name on the Marquis? I thought that was interesting. -This post is focusing on Peter Newman due to his relationship with Fellowship Memphis. Sandy kicked the issue over to Richard Rieves. © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 - The Wartburg Watch. from the victims stories, I think what you are saying has credibility, yes. Sola Scriptura is one topic that seems to be more misunderstood than not. I dont view PP and the like as fundamentalists but politicians selling their personal brand. he has a special place in gods heart, always. Branson is a popular vacation site. Actually, it would be better if churches used a secular training program for abuse training. He worked there from 1995 until he was fired in2009. Hes in the cesspool himself. Law Prof wrote: "They were mostly promoting Youth Life at that time," Dygert said, referencing the religious youth group that Kanakuk now calls "K-Life. On Feb 4., a separateanonymous plaintiff sued Newman for the same amount of money. I was a little confused as to why GRACE is held in such high esteem, yet there are strong objections to MinistrySafe. Actually, it would be better if churches used a secular training program for abuse training. But also no, the idea that one would make independent decisions apart from something specific in scripture, that was pretty much a no no. I would believe it was doctrinal (ie, people sin) if it applied equally to leaders and your average woman in the pew. It is really weird to hear missionaries speaking in tongues labeled as liberal. I think every person wants to imagine that the tares, goats, and wolves in sheeps clothing are somewhere else, not in their own circles, certainly not anyone they know personally. Both men said the Frenches' reporting gave them a sense of validation, even as it "rocked the boat a lot," in Dygert's words: They learned they weren't alone. Theyre spending ($4,800) a month to bring their kid, and some of these parents have two, three or four kids that are going through Kanakuk every summer, and so theres so much money that goes through the camp that ends up going to Branson and Taney County.. Not sure how this is done without being in touch with ones own conscious and developing wisdom over time? I harbored no notions that it was safer because it was smaller and closer to homeshe was able to bunk with a friend and I was just ready to loosen my reins a little for her. That's the No. I dont get it. Also, my church ordains women. It's like a pop-off valve on the water heater." Do you get the feeling that keeping women out of power is WAY more important to these folks than protecting them or children? Anybody who is riding around Kamp on ATVs in the nude has a serious problem. Eagle has written a number of excellent articles at his blog. . Sandy Willson of Memphis Second Presbyterian Church was notified in November 2011 that there was am alleged sexual predator on staff. He was fired and escorted off the premises that day. But what about when evil has been protected using Jesus for cover? ( take out the war like metaphor and think take on life). But practically impossible. We still would not know how Cultic the Villiage is had it not been for that brave young woman. Not those who are actual victims from church cover up. And why not? And the name Branson, MO sounds vaguely familiar. It ended up being a way to pay out lower settlements and/or avoid responsibility in law suits. Probably. This denomination is different from the type of church Ive been to in the past. But That one is more wholesome than the Milgram experiment! And we know there is a higher percentage of narcissist pastors than the general pop, right? 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