She was the grandmother of Murad III. WebA cause of death is determined by a medical examiner. In the end, Mustafa was appointed to governAmasya (close to Persian border) while Mehmet moved to Manisa. She was presented to Suleiman when he was still a prince. For the record, The books I referred are History books, recalled by actual accounts, I didn't cite a popular history book or a theater play. If interviews can be cited in Wikipedia for every living or dead person, why there is so much debate in this one? In early modern Spain, she appears or is alluded to in works by Quevedo and other writers as well as in a number of plays by Lope de Vega. She did not spend her last years in poverty, as her stepson, For Sultan Selim I was indeed the best King the Ottomans had, up until then. Mustafa became verypopular in the region under the guidance of his mother. Please stop making assumptions and accept the facts, this article needs to be changed to only Mahidevran, and all the theories and speculations, and doubted accounts can remain in an subtitle, because "doubt" and "speculation" do nothing to educate and help people. And for your information, she wasn't the mother, sister, aunt or main wife of the sultan: she wasn't a sultana, even when a theatre play calls her that. In this case, Suleiman not only broke the old custom, but began a new tradition for the future Ottoman sultans: To marry in a formal ceremony and to give their consorts significant influence on the court, especially in matters of succession. Takabeg (talk) 09:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Someone needs to check the pronunciation: stress and vowel length. It is traditionally believed that Hurrem, along with her daughter Mihrimah and her son-in-law Rustem, orchestrated Mustafas execution by turning his father, the Sultan, against him. Selim could have helped Mahidevran out of guilt that he lived and became Sultan while her son did not. She is still known and remembered today as the most politically influential Ottoman princess, and the only one to have served as Valide Sultan during her brother's reign. Peirce, Leslie (2017). During those decades the Venetian Republic was following the Ottoman dynastic news closely due to their close links with the empire. In 1553, Mustafa was very famous in Anatolia. For this reason, she has become a controversial figure in Ottoman history subject to allegations of plotting against and manipulating her political rivals. Hurrem has usually been held at least partly responsible for the intrigues in nominating a successor. Not hesitating for a second thought, he offered his beautiful daughter, as a gift, to the young prince." [44] This tragedy marks the first time the Ottomans were introduced on stage in France. [33] Her rehabilitation had been possible after the death of Hurrem in 1558. While "XXX son of Abdullah" maybe a son of a convert slave, you cannot say that Khalid son of Abdullah or Hussein son of Abdullah are also slaves. This page was last edited on 16 January 2023, at 12:59. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], A few sources does claim she was a wife. Theories I presented are with facts of ottoman etiquette and evidence from History books. Also, a Sultana was a woman in Sultan's family, being a mother of heir apparent living in the Harem at the same time the title Haseki was used for Hurrem, it can be asserted that she was also called Sultana, due to the fact that in her time (when Hurrem came along) Sultana title was already started being used for royal consorts regardless if they were haseki or not, see example of Mahfiruz Hatice Sultan, who was niether haseki nor Valide. [22] It was only possible for Hurrem to marry Suleiman after the death of Hafsa Sultan. And I have an interesting video for the newer.Today I want to tell you about Mahidevran Sultan, who she really is.Mahidevran Sultan is the mother of Shehzade Mustafa. This section is full of "possible" origin theories, so mentioning any ""possible theory"" is no violation of any principal. Also please keep the recent source in mind about an interview with her alleged descendant. According to the same tradition, Mahidevran had to leave Istanbul to accompany her son. [45] She has inspired paintings, musical works (including Joseph Haydn's Symphony No. The first person of non-royal blood to be addressed as sultan was Suleyman's mother who the title "Valide Sultan" was created for; then "Haseki Sultan" was created for Hurrem when they married. According to a source he was executed that very year on charges of planning to dethrone his father; his guilt for the treason of which he was accused remains neither proven nor disproven. [3][11][12] While Hrrem became Suleiman's new favorite and later his legal wife, Mahidevran Sultan retained the status of the crowned mother of Suleiman's eldest son,[13] and became Suleiman's "first wife". [25], After the death of Suleiman's mother, Hafsa Sultan, in 1534, Hurrem became the most trusted news source of Suleiman. For the record, you still failed to answer my question, rephrasing; why in some theatre plays she's the only Hatun ranked consort who is erroneously addressed like Sultana? Here are some sources (regardless of their nature) they contradicts the motion that she wasn't called Sultan. Through her husband, she played an active role in affairs of the state. Roxelana (Ukrainian: , romanized:Roksolana; lit. Mahidevran, concubine of Suleiman the Magnificent Birth Place: Bosporus, Turkey Birthday: 1500 Death Date: February 3, 1581(age 81) Sultans had previously married only foreign free noble ladies. [20] Hurrem became the only partner of the ruler and received the title of Haseki, which means the favorite. I am giving you answer about Mahidevran Sultan's rank.According to reliable sources it is confirmed that Mahidevran Sultan was Suleiman's Bas kadin(chief consort or chief lady).This was for those women who bore the eldest male child of reigning Sultan.As Mahidevran Sultan was the mother of Sehzade Mustafa,eldest son of Suleiman the magnificent,it is very logical that she held the rank Bas kadin or Birinci Kadin,it's from me which is logical. [15], Roxelana, called Hurrem Sultan by the Ottomans, probably entered the harem around seventeen years of age. Hurrem eventually achieved power, influencing the politics of the Ottoman Empire. Please, change the title to simply "Mahidevran"; all the other speculation can remain in the biography part. [6][7][8] Her native language was Ruthenian, the precursor to modern Ukrainian. Prince Idar took this as an opportunity to make a good relationship with their rapidly spending neighboring dynasty, as young Prince Sulieman was only a few year older (if not the same age) than his most beautiful daughter. Sources indicate that Hurrem Sultan was originally from Ruthenia, which was then part of the Polish Crown. Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.190.128 (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Phso2 Hi, I am Worldandhistory. And only after the release of the series Magnificent Century, where she was one of the main characters, various information about this sultana began to appear on the Internet.As Mahidevran's contemporaries wrote, in life she was a black-haired beauty with brown eyes. Circassian or Albanian? The change of titles was to differentiate a legal wife from a concubine/consort/unrecognized wife or however you want to call it. 113.203.158.58 (talk) 00:23, 8 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], I request a change of title, to revert it back to its original name (which was only "Mahidevran") and maintain its protected status. I shall wait for your response until few days then revert your changes, if you are unable to prove that this "Abdullah" was indeed a slave and not a free person, in which case, M would have been a "gifted wife" (married to S not legally but rather tough Nikah 'urfi). Mahidevran was: theoretically, the daughter of a hatun, a birinci kadin, but never a sultana: she didn't legally marry Suleyman. 113.203.177.1 (talk) 18:52, 28 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Dear Keivan.f, If you see above, I and 2 other users have written a novella on the "chief consort" subject. Specially every Circassion origin theory. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 22:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], The thing is, unlike yours, I'm not fabricating a theory! Whatever the case, the result was bitter for Mahidevran; Suleiman started to neglect her as punishment. 1540. Phone: She imprinted her seal and watched the council meetings through a wire mesh window. After Valide Sultan's death, Mahidevran Sultan takes the lead of the harem. At that time Mustafa was the third son of Suleiman, without significant importance. His wife Kay announced via Facebook: I am sorry to make a [4] Among the Ottomans, she was known mainly as Haseki Hurrem Sultan or Hurrem Haseki Sultan. After her brother Sari Selim's Also I would like to repeat a point I made earlier, the interview with her alleged descendant cannot be overlooked. She was given many honours after her death. Concubine by definition is not a slave. Therefore they can't be used. Mahidevran wasn't a legal wife nor became the mother of a reigning sultan; you should read your own sources too, since it specifies the differences between a concubine and a legal wife.190.218.117.86 (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry I am not making excuses I just refuse to believe that a "Brinci Kadin" wasn't called Sultana when she was serving as a mother of heir apparent and living in the Harem the same time title "Sultan" was started being used for Sultan's consorts. Where she came from? Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E8:8BCE:C01:ED43:4385:BB24:1ABE (talk) 09:23, 10 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply], (moved from user TP) Museum of Turkish and Islamic Arts, The Hagia Sophia Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse built in 1556, Haseki Sultan of Suleiman the Magnificent, Content in this edit is translated from the existing Turkish Wikipedia article at. A portrait of Roxelana in the British Royal Collection, c. 160070, A painting of Hurrem Sultan by a follower of Titian, 16th century, Roxelana and Sleyman the Magnificent by the German baroque painter Anton Hickel, (1780), Engraving by Johann Theodor de Bry, (1596), 16th century oil on wood painting of Hurrem Sultan, Tribute to Roxelana on 1997 Ukrainian postage stamp, Serlevha (illuminated frontispiece) from the Endowment Charter (Waqfiyya) pertaining to the architectural complex commissioned by Hrrem Sultan in the Aksaray district of Istanbul. It is believed that Hurrem's influence contributed to Suleiman's decision. The series follows the reign of Sultan Sleyman (r. 1520-1566), known in the West as Suleiman the Magnificent. The Ottoman Empire, 13001650: The Structure of Power. # 9. Despite the fact that male European artists were denied access to Hurrem in the Harem, there are many Renaissance paintings of the famous sultana. I am sorry but Facts do NOT leave room for doubts. [i][11], Shaykh Qutb al-Din al-Nahrawali, a Meccan religious figure, who visited Istanbul in late 1557, noted in his memoirs that Hurrem Sultan was of Ruthenian origin. If you are, however, still convinced that only Peirce's book is authentic source for the Ottomans, try putting this "concubinage" information in Ottoman Empire in details as explained by Leslie and see the response of Turks and Ottoman followers by yourself. Why popular theatre plays describe her character despite strangers of all types being forbidden into the harem? Although Sultans didn't used to lawfully wed their wives, Birinci Kadins were considered and treated just like lawfully wedded wives. All the facts have been laid out but you still want to call Mahidevran a sultana when she wasn't: she didn't legally marry Suleyman, nor was the mother of a sultan. Mihrimah Sultan was born in 1522 as the daughter of Sultan Soliman the Magnificent and Roxelana. She quotes the sultan as saying, "with the old king we were like brothers, and if it pleases the All-Merciful God, with this king we will be as father and son." Empress of the East: How a European Slave Girl Became Queen of the Ottoman Empire. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. During the campaign against Safavid Persia in 1553, because of fear of rebellion, Suleiman ordered the execution of Mustafa. Not only is the phrasing leaving much to be desired, the conclusion is also a subjective speculation presented as a fact. [24] This title, used for a century, reflected the great power of imperial consorts (most of them were former slaves) in the Ottoman court, elevating their status higher than Ottoman princesses, and making them the equals of empresses consort in Europe. We have not seen another such example after 15th century of a Senior consort being not called Sultana. Muradiye complex. Her influence with Suleiman made her one of the most powerful women in Ottoman history and in the world at that time. The Ringling Museum in Sarasota, Florida, purchased the original or a copy around 1930. Hurrem was allowed to give birth to more than one son which was a stark violation of the old imperial harem principle, "one concubine mother one son," which was designed to prevent both the mother's influence over the sultan and the feuds of the blood brothers for the throne. [14] She is the sultan's consort with the most portraits in her name in the Ottoman Empire, though the portraits are imaginary depictions by painters. WebHe often forgets his lines or forgets to show up altogether, so the others have to look for him. The Ottoman archives and privy purse records prove that she was Mahidevran Hatun, regardless that fact that she was the mother of the crown prince or had been once a favorite of Suleiman. He was accused of collaborating with the Shah and was executed in the battle camp. [11], Even the reports of the Venetian ambassadors (baili) at Suleiman's court, the most extensive and objective first-hand Western source on Hurrem to date, were often filled with the authors own interpretations of the harem rumours. Despite Mahidevrans warnings, he stayed in close contact with the other princes. "[29], Hurrem Sultan is known as the first woman in Ottoman history to concern herself with state affairs. I don't think the Turks would have been so quite and this web would have been still available if it wasn't authentic. Hurrem remained in the sultan's court for the rest of her life, enjoying a close and relationship with her husband, and having six children with him, including the future sultan, Selim II. In the 20112014 TV series Muhteem Yzyl, Hurrem Sultan is portrayed by Turkish-German actress Meryem Uzerli from seasons one to three. Hope you understand. Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.161.124.138 (talk) 14:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], SO many false claimed about Mahidevran and a daughter of Sleyman , who called Raziye. - Worldandhistory (talk) 16:33, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Phso2: Two of your sources are at stake (Colin Iber's and Peirce's), please read page 136 of Colin's book, this gives definition of Slave in general term, so calling any member of Sultan's family a slave does not necessarily makes them a slave by origin, and P simply used a text from Alberi, P herself only called M a concubine. Mahidevran madegreat efforts to protect her only son from assassinations, but she could not prevent his death. The show was originally supposed to open last week With Christmas around the corner, Age Concern South Canterburys Friday Club celebrated by holding a traditional Christmas dinner for its members last Friday. Your stubbornness of using only Peirce's provided information while neglecting other possible sources shows your own prejudice, not anyone else's. Mahidevran became his favourite woman probably when she was fifteen, and she had a son (Mustafa). [25] Also, in Ottoman society, mothers played more influential roles in their sons' educations and in guiding their careers. On the contrary, I sympathize with Mahidevran Hatun. Nedim Ardoa (talk) 08:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply], The page Mahidevran Sultan should be moved to Mahidevran Glbahar Hatun because Mahidevran was never a concubine or a Haseki Sultan and Hrrem Sultan was the first Haseki Sultan.--Retrieverlove 1:09, 22 June 2014, According to Leslie P. Peirce, prior to the creation of the title Haseki Sultan for Hrrem Sultan, all the Ottoman consorts carried an alternative royal title, "Hatun".But Leslie P. Peirce also said that during 16th century(Suleiman's reign) the title Hatun for a valide,princesses and Sultan's consorts were changed by Sultan(it's called Sultana in the harem to distinguish between male and female). And you Sir, just decided to crash in and make an edit. [41], Hurrem is known to have been very generous to the poor. I request moderators to change the title of this page to "Mahidevran" only and if they find it pertinent as well, to retain the speculations in a subtopic within the page. And for your info, they all married the sultan and were legal wives, and those that weren't married were called hatun. Imber, Colin (2002). The letters also suggest Hurrem's strong desire to establish personal contact with the king. ", That's not the correct conclusion, though. An extra piece of information, in 15th century, the Tatars, Caucasians, Albanians, and Russians were all considered part of ""Circassia"". Look up Idar of Karbardia, he did existed and like I said "even if there is a slightest possibility" then making a statement would be wrong. Categories: 1500 births. I asked a simple question and you failed to answer because you cant. If Sultana cannot be used for a "Birinci Kadin" then Hatun should also not be used. Unless we have another source which gives us the sketch of positions of Sultan's consorts in Harem, the WEB SITE can be cited, because there is no mentioning of consort's positions and their status in their master's harem in Leslie's book. She became one of the most powerful and influential women in Ottoman history as well as a prominent and controversial figure during the era known as the Sultanate of Women. In a play entitled The Holy League, Titian appears on stage at the Venetian Senate, and stating that he has just come from visiting the Sultan, displays his painting of Sultana Rossa or Roxelana. Hurrem and Mahidevran had borne Suleiman six ehzades (Ottoman princes), four of whom survived past the 1550s: Mehmed, Selim, Bayezid, and Cihangir. Not interested? Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], Keivan, do you really have access to the proposed source? Because none of these people neither Ottomans nor foreign visitors were permitted into the inner circle of the imperial harem, which was surrounded by multiple walls, they largely relied on the testimony of the servants or courtiers or on the popular gossip circulating around Istanbul. The consorts were never to return to Istanbul unless their sons succeeded to the throne. Born in Ruthenia (then an eastern region of the Kingdom of Poland, now Rohatyn, Ukraine) to a Ruthenian Orthodox priest, Hurrem was captured by Crimean Tatars during a slave raid and eventually taken to Istanbul, the Ottoman capital. 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