It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. Psalm 104:3. Hi David, That would be what we today would consider a lifetime of experiencing Gods faithfulness and guidance, only to throw it away in a single day! They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. Hi Daniel, GOD'S WORD Translation. But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. Thanks! Adam and Eve, according to the Old Testament, are the First Humans who ever walked on earth from which all humans descended. Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. We know that God is Omnipresent. He may have seen the trees and the garden as God spoke those words, but he probably hadnt eaten yet. You say that since Gods coming is right after Adam and Eve sin, that His reason for coming is to proclaim judgment. But what comes to my mind is why would you choose this debated part to address the concern. So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.. You havent dealt with this in your explanation. God communicated many things to Adam. (Vs. 24 says He drove them out the he place Cherubims). Adam and Eve's Separation from God . This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. The Bible doesnt tell us how old Cain was when he murdered his brother, but it does give us a potential clue. Hello Tim. He gives instructions and warnings and they fear Him when they disobey. Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. Interesting post. Adam and Eve obeyed God. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. Its not hard at all to see that Adams and Eves sins broke the right standing they had with God. This saddens me. Blessings! Easy, no relevance to the story. I could not find it. How do I know? Hi Kevin, In order to answer the question of why God created Adam and Eve naked we first need to look as some Scriptures which show that the Bible uses clothing is a symbol of our character. 1 They Could DECIDE Genesis 3:2-3. Of course, the eternal Son, the Word by whom the Father made all things has always been present at the Father's right hand. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. I see familiarity here. !NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. This month we will look at Bible texts from Genesis to Revelation to reflect on what it means to walk with God. "Until the cool of the day. I hope this helps. I found it interesting that with all the opinions to the idea of walking with God in the comments section, not too many have thanked you for letting us know that Gods Word does not say that Adam or Eve walked with God in the Garden. I agree with you that we cannot say with certainty that God walked with them, I am just here to point out that the language suggests a repetitive habit of God. If Im narrating a scene, I can write that the main character heard a certain sound (e.g., an approaching truck or an army on the march) before the character realizes what it is that he is hearing. Thanks for the comments. who knows perhaps it was. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. Regardless of whether you translate the disputed phrase as cool of the day or strong wind, the text still says that God was walking in the cool of the day / wind (of the day). Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. Hi Nucc, I think that would be fantastic. Bible Answer: They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. I must stand corrected as I also remembered Adam and Eve walking in the cool of the afternoon with God. Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. So they hid from the Lord God among the trees in the garden. Im not sure where you got the idea that Im hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God. I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God, which is what I stated in the conclusion of the post and in several follow-up comments. God went down to talk with Adam and Eve as usual in the cool of the day, normally they would be in the open and easy to find, but this time when God came they were afraid and had hidden behind some trees or bushes. They hide among the trees. In conclusion, the whole of chapter 2 & 3 causes me to conclude that Adam regularly communed with God somehow; and to me probably daily (or at least almost) since we know we are the apple of His eye. The only possible biblical reference to walking in the Garden of Eden is found after Adam and Eve sinned. Why werent they mentioned? It seems so trivial. If he was just manifesting himself in a strong wind, there would be no need to use the word walking. But thats not at all what is going on here. It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. God bless you. But as seasoned believers we need to understand it is better to use our hearts to hear the sermons the pastors preach rather than the details of the text. It doesn't say they viewed God with their eyes. Maybe He was physically there throughoutthe short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts. Why? Thanks for reading. God cannot look upon sin ( Habakkuk 1:13) and that's why He told Moses no one can see His face and live ( Exodus 33:20 ). Adam and Eve were happy and satisfied in the beautiful garden. This concept is very helpful and it incorporates all of the othersintelligence, communication, worship, dominion, an eternal soul. Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. They were created with perfect bodies and were husband and wife on the day they were created. The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. The phrase "walked with God" first appears in the Bible in Genesis 5:22 and refers to Enoch after He was "raptured" but I understand what you're asking. I have read the account of Creation, Adam and Eve, and the Fall so many times in my lifetime, but I just recently realized that the Bible doesnt say that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. Song of Solomon 2:17. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. I think there are two reasons why it seems best to conclude that God had walked in the garden before: 1. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). Finally, there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. Tim, thank you for your commentary. Adam and Eve's "murder" was considered by Jesus to be at the "beginning," not the end, of geologic time. I dont find your suggestion to be plausible. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. Yes, Jesus is God and was in the beginning with God, but the part about the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) is a reference to the Incarnation that began when He was conceived in Marys womb. Yes, Im aware that the KJV translates the term as voice. But look closely, notice that it never says they walked with the voice of God. What if the coats of skin were actually human skin as we have now. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. Your email address will not be published. He claims that seeing Him is seeing the Father.. then I see no problem with Jesus being the physical manifestation of God walking in . From this view, Adam and Eve were with God in the Garden for a whileand they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. Say, for example, that they werent expelled from the Garden until they were 60+ or 70+ (or older). We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.". Adam blamed the woman, the . Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. This is a very good example of god walking with his people and his people walking with their god .look at 25:18 where off if you shall do my statutes that is live the way I instruct you to live that is walk in harmony with god then you shall dwell in the land in saftey.pleaseeeeeee this is why your argument is so trivial I have only given one example the whole book is showing how god walks with his people and how he expects them to walk with him read 26:11 and I will set my tabernacle among you 12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU NOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT THE SCENARIO IS WHEN THEY ARE NOT WALING TOGETHER 26:14 but if you will not hearken unto me to not do my commandments( do you know that obeying the commandments is to walk with god)15 if you despise my statues or if your soul abhor my judgements so that you will not do my commandments BUT THAT YOU BREAK MY COVENANT " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word . 5. Maybe they did, but the text doesnt tell us that. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. 9 And JEHO. Tim,I will have to agree that scripture does not state outright that God and Adam walked in the garden together on a daily basis, as many assume, however, the earlier verses in Genesis would seem to indicate that Adam and God did enjoy some sort of periodic personal interaction, such as when God brought the animals to Adam to see what he would name them, or when God gave Adam instructions regarding the work that he was to do in the garden, and what he was, and was not, supposed to eat, and certainly when God put Adam to sleep to remove one of his ribs. The main point of this entire post is to encourage Christians to look closely at Scripture, so that they will stop saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God or something very similar. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. Theres no reason to think that they waited 60+ years to have children when they were already husband and wife and were created by God to fulfill the instructions He had given them, including be fruitful and multiply.. Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.". This is something I have heard countless times, and based on the number of responses trying to justify such a view, its pretty clear that a lot of others have heard it and/or taught it. As I mentioned in the post, even if He walked through the Garden to speak to Adam and Eve it would not prove that they used to take walks with Him. Daniel, Thanks for taking the time to comment. . Tim please do a small word study on walking and when you do you will find that walking refers to a living relationship with the said persons mentioned . It would literally have been paradise just to walk with Jesus in the . I looked in Genesis, Psalms and even searched for New Testament references. Thanks for your focus on this and for sharing the fruits of your consideration of the passage. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. There are warnings in Scripture about adding to it. God did really walked with man physically, reasons: then Adam was sinless, only sin can hide God from us, so why should God hide himself from a sinless being? may I use your illustration in a short story that I will submit for publication on a non-commercial website (perhaps only my own personal website, if I cannot find acceptance at a more widely viewed site)? I have no problem with that. How cool would that be! Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. Thank you for helpful writing. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. This would have been after God made Eve and Adam awoke and uttered the words in Genesis 2:23. They had all they could ever want. While its true they could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel, they also could have been any age from very young up to 120+. Instead, He manifested as a violent wind, perhaps not too different than how He spoke to Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38:1). Before He came to earth two thousand years ago, Jesus appeared at various times in the Old Testament in a physical form. Perhaps some people may have this figurative sense in mind when they speak of our first parents walking with God. 10 For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! Can you show me some similar articles? They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. If they dont walk with him no blessing no rain no food and punishment 7 times more. We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there. Adam's spiritual life, through fellowship with God, depended on Adam's respect for God's laws. Now we do not see You any more. Ed, Adam tried to put the blame on Eve, and Eve tried to put the blame on the serpent, but God was angry with all three of them! I believe this issue is often promoted by people with certain theological perspectives who want to show how much damage sin did to our relationship with God. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). It does say he was afraid-afraid because they were naked. Maybe it is implied elsewhere in the Bible? Genesis 3:8 Can you imagine what it must have been like in the garden of Eden, before sin entered the world? When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. In God's sight they are like filthy rags. Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! The Garden of Eden, the terrestrial Paradise known also as the Garden of God, is one of the most famous settings in the Bible. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. God goes to great lengths to explain how he wants the relationship to be. He was given the title of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" because he knew good and evil. However, God could have manifested himself as a human being, but this would not be the glorious spirit being that he actually is. Here is a portion of what I wrote on page 72 of my book, Fallen. The point was to urge Christians to pay closer attention to the text of Scripture. But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. Of course, from this view God was perceiveably with the pre-Fallen Adam and Eve, so that they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. But Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long prior to their Fall. Genesis 3:8. 21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins never seen what GOD actually looks like. The problem with this claim is that youll never find a Bible verse that teaches it. Adam and eve Adam and eve disobey god hiding footprints The Presence Of God Guilty Fear Hearing God's Voice Garden Of Eden, The Gardens Concealment . But again, that doesnt change my point. But why wouldnt the Israelites use the animals for sustenance-milk,meat,skins, etc. #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. Many people assume that this one verse is symbolic, as . And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? Thanks for your comments. well, they say that Jesuss life was that of God or perhaps he was God. What an amazing thing to be able to do. The untold truth of the Garden of Eden. And a good place to start is The Garden of Eden. Well done! I have no problem with the concept of Adam and Eve walking with God and seeing Him. Walked with God is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israels heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! Keep up the good work. I would agree with much of what you wrote, and I believe Ive stated as much in the article and follow up comments. Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. What does it even mean? Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I plan to search through it much more. Instead of adding our own ideas to Scripture and stating them dogmatically and demanding apologies from anyone who disagrees, perhaps we should learn to deal carefully with the word of God. The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). But there is no need to make the text outright say something it does not, in fact, outright say. In Job, God spoke out of the whirlwind. 1. I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. This is a different subject. Song of Solomon 4:6. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). I suppose so, but seems illogical, Hi Daniel, On page 57 of Heaven you say Before the Fall, God came to Eden to visit with Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8). This passage refers to God walking in the Garden after Adam and Eve have fallen, but before God has confronted them. 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